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Post by Jeff Probst on Jun 30, 2008 13:13:36 GMT -4
This is the Final Tribal Council.
Either BB or Ramona will be crowned as the winner of Survivor Second Chances: Borneo here.
BB and Ramona, you will first have a chance to say opening statements to the Jury. Then, the Jury members will be able to ask you questions that will help them decide who deserves to win the game.
After that, BB and Ramona will make closing statements, and the Jury will vote for the winner.
Jury members, since you can no longer view your confessional, you'll need to send a private message to me with your vote. However, you can still change your vote.
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Post by B.B. Andersen on Jun 30, 2008 14:33:48 GMT -4
Ill make my opening statement now and then Im off to work. Ill answer any questions when I get home tonight after midnight.
First off I want to thank Jeff and everyone who played this game. I had alot of fun and it wouldnt have been the same without everyone.
I had every intention of doing whatever I had to do to get myself to this position here and obviously it worked, Yes I lied to people, and yes I backstabbed people, but without doing that I really dont think I would be here. If I told some of you the truth about what I was planning on doing you would have stopped me from doing it. No doubt about it. I didnt try to hurt peoples feelings, but I also didnt try to not to.
I feel like I played a very smart and strategic game. I mapped out very early on what I wanted to do and everything went exactly as I had planned.
As some of you im sure have figured out already but me and Ramona had a final 2 allaince from the very beginning. She was the first person I made an alliance with and that is why she was really the only person I was completely loyal to. A main part of our game plan was to make sure no one knew about our alliance and I think we did a great job of that. I knew Ramona had the Idol from the second she got it..as I also tried to get the Idol for myself. Since Ramona had the Idol I was able to freely suggest voting her out, but also using the fear of the Idol being used to get people to not wanna do it. It allowed me and Ramona to distance ourselves in the eyes of all the other players.
This game for me was all about staying in the majority, staying in control, and removing every threat at the soonest possible opportunity. I needed to befriend some of the biggest threats in this game for one reason and one reason only. If we werent friendly and we wernt "allied" you would have tried to come after me.
Another point I wanted to explain before heading off to work and waiting for your questions is why I choose to go to the finals with Ramona instead of Joel. For me it was simple. Me and Joel played much different games. I felt that if the vote was between myself and Joel, you the jury would be deciding which style of game play was more effective. Knowing that I lied to just about everyone I feared many of you would vote for Joel out of spite for me. Instead, I choose to go to the end with Ramona for 2 reasons. She was the first person I made an alliance with and I saw an opportunity to at least keep one promise in this game. The other reason was because me and Ramona played the exact same game...except I believe that I played it better. Im hoping by answering your questions and giving you my statements Ill have proven that to you, and you will vote me as the winner of this game.
Thank you.
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Post by Ramona Gray on Jun 30, 2008 15:07:05 GMT -4
My turn!
Like BB said, we played the exact same game- to me, the main difference is that I was always the one who did the screw-overs, and still none of you voted me out.
Look back to the very beginning of the game. The former Pagongs know the deal, of course, but I'll fill in the Tagis- the very first Pagong Tribal Council, yours truly shafted Greg. Not only did I lie about who I was voting for, but I fucked him over in the tie-breaker by giving him a very good (but not good enough) score. I screwed over Jenna. I screwed over Gretchen. I screwed over Stacey. I screwed almost all of you, and yet you had no opportunity to screw me back.
Hell, I wasn't even openly allied to any of you. I had my alliance with BB, and drifted wherever I was needed at will, making sure nobody voted against us or thwarted our plans. And it worked.
Almost all of you hated my guts, but I played the game so well that there was nothing you could do about it. If you don't have respect for how badly you were dominated, then I encourage you to vote for BB. This may have been a team effort, but when it came to actually walking on the wild side and taking risks, it was all me.
Thanks for your vote.
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 15:10:52 GMT -4
Wow
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Post by Jeff Probst on Jun 30, 2008 15:22:51 GMT -4
Jury members can now ask their question(s) in this thread.
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 17:45:03 GMT -4
Congrats u two..Here are my questions....
1. Who did u lie to in this game and what was the lie? 2. Waht non jury member should be on the jury and why ? 3. What jury member shouldnt be on jury and why? 4. Rank the jury members and why u put them in the spot u did? 5. Id like a week by week play on what gotu two to the finals? 6. Who was ur alliances and how did it help u get to the final two? 7. Why shouldnt the other person get my vote? 8. Say one neg thing about the other person? 9. Say one nice thing about the other person? 10. Did either one of u ever give me a vote in this game?
All i have for now llol Good luck and may the best one win
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Post by Ramona Gray on Jun 30, 2008 18:17:50 GMT -4
1. Who did u lie to in this game and what was the lie?I lied to pretty much everyone but BB and the people I didn't talk to. It's part of the game, and if you didn't lie enough, or lie well enough, it's why you aren't here in the final 2 now. 2. Waht non jury member should be on the jury and why ?None of them should be. I'm a firm believer that in Survivor, the cream rises to the top and the rest shakes out how it should. 3. What jury member shouldnt be on jury and why?They all should be, for the same reason as the last question. There's a few I don't like (Colleen, I'm looking at you), but in all seriousness those people did earn their way onto the jury through lying and scheming, which I won't hold against them. 4. Rank the jury members and why u put them in the spot u did?Colleen, Gervase, Sean, Sonja, Gretchen, Stacey and Joel. From worst to first. You all went out in the order you did because of the things you did in the game. Colleen, you were the biggest bitch I've ever played the game with. It's one thing to lie, but you were openly a bitch, and I was glad to see you go more than anyone else. Gervase, man, you fucked yourself over by being a dumbass and not listening- you could have actually got a bit further than you did, but you fucked yourself over by throwing away votes and allying with people you had no business allying with. Sean, you were the head Tagi to me- you were also allied with that cunt Kelly. You were booted for winning immunity and making yourself an obvious threat when you didn't have the numbers to protect yourself later. Sonja, you were just business- I barely talked to you, and was just getting annoyed by our alliance with Stacey. If you'd have been more aggressive later on, you could have done some damage, but you went quietly. Gretchen, your mistake was wanting to vote for me- BB warned me you didn't trust me, and he old me you were organizing a vote for me- you would have been going home anyways because of your overall power, though, so don't worry about it. Stacey, that was just business- Joel was more trustworthy than you, so we got rid of you. Had you tried cozying up to the powerful players at merge, you could have snuck into the final 3, but you didn't and so you were taken out. Joel, you got to the final three by acting like you were useless. I won't call you useless, because you DID manage to get this far. You should have tried a lot harder at that final 3 challenge, though, because you're no fat gay guy. Richar Hatch can get away with tanking a F3 challenge, but you, sir, cannot. 5. Id like a week by week play on what gotu two to the finals?You pretty much just got one, and I don't feel like going into all that detail when more is probably irrelevant or already known. If you want to know something, be specific, please. 6. Who was ur alliances and how did it help u get to the final two?My alliance was to BB. Other people thought I was allied to them, but I had zero allegiance to any of you. You were simply pawns, and while you had differences you were all the same to me as long as I wasn't getting voted out and BB wasn't getting voted out. 7. Why shouldnt the other person get my vote?He should. We both deserve your votes, because we played the game together. Unfortunately, you only have one and will have to give it to one of us according to your personal opinions of us. 8. Say one neg thing about the other person?You got to vote out Joel, you bastard! I wanted to do it! Haha 9. Say one nice thing about the other person?He's probably the smartest Survivor player I've ever come across- he knows how people will react to every situation well in advance. 10. Did either one of u ever give me a vote in this game?Let me check. No I didn't, though I voted for every single other person on the jury. I can also assure you that BB voted for every single one of you.
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 18:48:42 GMT -4
Just so u know i did try at that chall i got side tracked and forgot about it till a min past my time and i think ur answers to some of my questions are way to cocky
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Post by Stacey Stillman on Jun 30, 2008 18:51:38 GMT -4
Congrats on making it here guys, you both are great players. Alright my question to both of you is to name one good thing and one bad thing about the jury members, in two categories. Personally wise and game play wise. I hope that makes sense, if Not just ask me to clarify Good Luck!
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Post by Ramona Gray on Jun 30, 2008 19:28:15 GMT -4
Just so u know i did try at that chall i got side tracked and forgot about it till a min past my time and i think ur answers to some of my questions are way to cocky Did you expect me to be humble? I'm not going to pretend I don't deserve to be here to appease you and try and win your vote. I DO deserve to be here, and that's why I am here. A ton of people talked about taking me out, and no one ever did. I'm a survivor in the truest sense of the word, Joel. Andby the way, the same thing happened to me in the challenge, but to be fair you didn't really win any of the challenge...
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Post by Ramona Gray on Jun 30, 2008 19:29:26 GMT -4
Congrats on making it here guys, you both are great players. Alright my question to both of you is to name one good thing and one bad thing about the jury members, in two categories. Personally wise and game play wise. I hope that makes sense, if Not just ask me to clarify Good Luck! Please clarify. Do you mean a good thing about each player's personality, a bad thing about each's personality, a good about each's gameplay and a bad about each's gameplay? With seven people, tat could take a while... bhut if that's what you mean I'll give it a shot.
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 20:00:39 GMT -4
U know u had mny vote really u did till u turned out to be the cockiest sob so congrats on getten my vote BB u deserve it over Ramona anyway
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Post by Ramona Gray on Jun 30, 2008 20:53:16 GMT -4
U know u had mny vote really u did till u turned out to be the cockiest sob so congrats on getten my vote BB u deserve it over Ramona anyway You asked the questions, I answered them. What are you going to do if BB gives you the same answers?
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 21:23:04 GMT -4
Well i just dont liek ur attitude so i decided to give it to him oh well good luck Ramona
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Post by Joel Klug on Jun 30, 2008 21:23:39 GMT -4
U was just real;ly cocky while answering them u can be honest without being cocky
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